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I think so. Fortunately, they did catch the criminals, even though they lost their dog.

http://www.khou.com/news/Deputys-dog-dies-during-search-for-suspects-79991167.html#comments

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I agree, I don't see a 120+ pound dog being as easy to manipulate into a choke position.  I think the dog would also have benifited from training for this senario, and even if he'd been a little more hectic he should have done better against two opponents.

Hard to say, who knows what those guys did to that dog. That looked like a pretty big shep to me.  I bet it had more to do with training then the size of the dog.  Too bad for the dog. 

I agree with that thought that it could have been training. If a dog is so focused to get a bite that he doesnt see what going on around him thats great. but in this case he may have looked at the criminal as a decoy and initially the other guy as a handler until it was too late. It is my understanding that many people use mals and other breeds and in certain cases there is something they call tunnel vision(?) which if im correct is the ability to only focus in on a target even at some odd cost. I dont know how any other well trained dog could have done different in this situation cause if the fella was driven enough to pursue he had to be driven enough to stay with the suspect at all cost until being called off by his handler. The only sure thing that would or could have made a difference is if there wasn't the sound interference.

With that being said a dog with emmense weight pulling capabilities and a higher muscle composition would without question present more of a task in subduing for a mere average person whom probably is not athletically inclined any more than the average healthy young individual.

David Ishee at 01:53PM on Dec 28, 2009

I agree, I don't see a 120+ pound dog being as easy to manipulate into a choke position.  I think the dog would also have benifited from training for this senario, and even if he'd been a little more hectic he should have done better against two opponents.

Hey David, I took a look at your site and your program. I am wondering what are the main breeds you are using in your program?

Thanks 

Hard to say, you never really know the outcome until the deed is done. Wouldn't mind being able to rewind time and replacing the Shep with Preacher or Tate to see the outcome! Really depends on the person, the dog, and who slips first( Kinda like UFC).

my program uses APBT, Dane, Neo, Bullmastiff and Bordeaux. Though I also have a Swinford pup out of Damon and Lucile that I'll be outcrossing to in a couple of years.

Not to be korny, but on a serious note, what if the dog was wearing one of thoughs giant spiked collars that you see some of the american bullies wearing........ i dont see how u can get a dog in a choke hold with a giant spiked collar wrapped around its kneck............ but yes i a think a bigger dog would have done better, also think a diffrent breed would have..... no offense to the sheps

also i know that a police dog would not be wearing a spiked collar, but a civilians dog may be, they seem to be very faddish wear i live...... i dont own one but, it was the first thing i thought of when watching this vid........ anyways i feal bad for the dog, but its a reminder of what can happen....

David Ishee at 07:42PM on Jan 06, 2010

my program uses APBT, Dane, Neo, Bullmastiff and Bordeaux. Though I also have a Swinford pup out of Damon and Lucile that I'll be outcrossing to in a couple of years.

Thanks David, your program sounds interesting. Now I understand why your dogs are getting so big...lol:)

Wish you success.

Thanks Nico.

I agree with penngomifan, I have a spiked collar on Kronos, but it's the 1/2 inch spikes. I always thought the big extra sharp spikes were over the top, but that's a good point. I might look into getting one for when we're out, just incase he has to go into action. It would but very effective neck armor.

If you get a spiked collar, please leave it at home when we train, and just bring a smooth flat aggitation collar, a pinch collar, and a good leash.