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DAVE
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As promised here are a couple of pics to check out. 



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Dave 

May 3, 2010 at 7:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

chimerakennels
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Both the dogs look great Dave. Do you plan on coming down for some more training this summer?

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May 3, 2010 at 8:41 PM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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I would love to, Just let me know.

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Dave 

May 3, 2010 at 9:04 PM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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Just in case anyone is wondering what Tucker has in his mouth it is a beef femur.

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May 3, 2010 at 9:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

David Ishee
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They look really good togeather. It's amaizing how much they've grown.

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May 4, 2010 at 1:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Dro
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Very nice, Dave.  They look great.  I know you must be happy with them.

May 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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Dro at May 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Very nice, Dave.  They look great.  I know you must be happy with them.

Thanks I am very happy with them!

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Dave 

May 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Nico
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DAVE at May 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Dro at May 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Very nice, Dave.  They look great.  I know you must be happy with them.

Thanks I am very happy with them!

Very strong, yet lean looking dogs! NICE. Any specific reason why the tails were cropped differently?

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May 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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Nico at May 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM

DAVE at May 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Dro at May 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Very nice, Dave.  They look great.  I know you must be happy with them.

Thanks I am very happy with them!

Very strong, yet lean looking dogs! NICE. Any specific reason why the tails were cropped differently?

The tails were cropped differently because I obtained my dogs from two different breeders with different opinions about how the tails should be cropped.

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Dave 

May 6, 2010 at 7:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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They are very lean and strong!  A-LOT of that is genetics and  A-LOT is exercise and diet. 

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Dave 

May 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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David Ishee at May 4, 2010 at 1:10 PM

They look really good togeather. It's amaizing how much they've grown.

They are really getting big! But remain Athletic!  If you notice Tucker is as big as my mower! And Misty is not far behind and 3 months younger!

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Dave 

May 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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Nico at May 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM

DAVE at May 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Dro at May 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Very nice, Dave.  They look great.  I know you must be happy with them.

Thanks I am very happy with them!

Very strong, yet lean looking dogs! NICE. Any specific reason why the tails were cropped differently?

Just curious which tail crop does EVERYONE prefer and why?

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Dave 

May 6, 2010 at 7:48 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Nico
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DAVE at May 6, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Nico at May 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM

DAVE at May 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Dro at May 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Very nice, Dave.  They look great.  I know you must be happy with them.

Thanks I am very happy with them!

Very strong, yet lean looking dogs! NICE. Any specific reason why the tails were cropped differently?

Just curious which tail crop does EVERYONE prefer and why?

I am more used to the shorter tail crop, like the boxers or rotties. Somehow it looks better to my eye. I sometimes also wonder about the longer crop, if it doesn't bother the dog in a sitting postion? It seem that the length would not allow the dog to fully realx when in a sitting position?!?

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May 6, 2010 at 10:19 PM Flag Quote & Reply

David Ishee
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Personally I like the look of an undocked tail, even though on big dogs they hurt when they are excited.


To me they just look more dog like, and less bear like.

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May 7, 2010 at 12:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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Nico at May 6, 2010 at 10:19 PM

DAVE at May 6, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Nico at May 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM

DAVE at May 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Dro at May 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Very nice, Dave.  They look great.  I know you must be happy with them.

Thanks I am very happy with them!

Very strong, yet lean looking dogs! NICE. Any specific reason why the tails were cropped differently?

Just curious which tail crop does EVERYONE prefer and why?

I am more used to the shorter tail crop, like the boxers or rotties. Somehow it looks better to my eye. I sometimes also wonder about the longer crop, if it doesn't bother the dog in a sitting postion? It seem that the length would not allow the dog to fully realx when in a sitting position?!?

Nico


Good point I had not thought of that.



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Dave 

May 7, 2010 at 7:22 AM Flag Quote & Reply

chimerakennels
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The longer dock doesn't bother the dog at all. They can move it just like a full length tail.


The longer dock is also healthier than the very short dock. It has been reported that Rottweilers with too short a dock lack of anus control. I am not joking with that comment btw.

 

Also, a longer dock provides a handle for the handler to grab the dog. One hand on a collar and one hand on the rear and you have full control of the front and back of the dog.

 

A longer dock also allows one to READ the dog...as the tail is used in communication.

 

Finally, a dock provides some advantages to the full length tail as well...as it is less likely to be injured, won't get "mail tail" from wagging messages all the time beating the tip into a bloody mess as it hits objects in confined living. It also prevents grape juice on the floor, kid's eyes from being tagged, and candles from being knocked over.

 

We certainly have several reasons for docking like we do.

 

I don't like the full length tail ONLY because it makes a mess in the home. I WOULD NEVER DOCK A TAIL SHORT. I want to read the dog and also want a handle to grab at a time in need.

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May 7, 2010 at 5:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

DAVE
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chimerakennels at May 7, 2010 at 5:24 PM

The longer dock doesn't bother the dog at all. They can move it just like a full length tail.


The longer dock is also healthier than the very short dock. It has been reported that Rottweilers with too short a dock lack of anus control. I am not joking with that comment btw.

 

Also, a longer dock provides a handle for the handler to grab the dog. One hand on a collar and one hand on the rear and you have full control of the front and back of the dog.

 

A longer dock also allows one to READ the dog...as the tail is used in communication.

 

Finally, a dock provides some advantages to the full length tail as well...as it is less likely to be injured, won't get "mail tail" from wagging messages all the time beating the tip into a bloody mess as it hits objects in confined living. It also prevents grape juice on the floor, kid's eyes from being tagged, and candles from being knocked over.

 

We certainly have several reasons for docking like we do.

 

I don't like the full length tail ONLY because it makes a mess in the home. I WOULD NEVER DOCK A TAIL SHORT. I want to read the dog and also want a handle to grab at a time in need.

Lee


Thanks for the insight very valid reason. I knew the handle but did not know about the lack of control.

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Dave 

May 8, 2010 at 8:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Nico
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DAVE at May 8, 2010 at 8:17 AM

chimerakennels at May 7, 2010 at 5:24 PM

The longer dock doesn't bother the dog at all. They can move it just like a full length tail.


The longer dock is also healthier than the very short dock. It has been reported that Rottweilers with too short a dock lack of anus control. I am not joking with that comment btw.

 

Also, a longer dock provides a handle for the handler to grab the dog. One hand on a collar and one hand on the rear and you have full control of the front and back of the dog.

 

A longer dock also allows one to READ the dog...as the tail is used in communication.

 

Finally, a dock provides some advantages to the full length tail as well...as it is less likely to be injured, won't get "mail tail" from wagging messages all the time beating the tip into a bloody mess as it hits objects in confined living. It also prevents grape juice on the floor, kid's eyes from being tagged, and candles from being knocked over.

 

We certainly have several reasons for docking like we do.

 

I don't like the full length tail ONLY because it makes a mess in the home. I WOULD NEVER DOCK A TAIL SHORT. I want to read the dog and also want a handle to grab at a time in need.

Lee


Thanks for the insight very valid reason. I knew the handle but did not know about the lack of control.

Thanks Lee. I was not aware of ome of the points you made, but they do make sense. How about balance? I always hear that while running, climbing, jumping, etc..., dogs use their long tails as a balance actor very much so the cats do.

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May 8, 2010 at 11:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply

chimerakennels
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I have never noticed any impact on a dog's balance. I believe as long as it is done before the dog walks (day 3 of life), their nervous system develops coordination just as does a bobcat or lynx...never had it...and they develop fine. I suspect that if the dog learned to use it, then it was cut it might make a difference. That said, I think the "balance" issue is way over stated.

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May 11, 2010 at 10:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

David Ishee
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I'd say even if the tail was cut later in life it wouldn't have much effect for long. Dogs are as adaptable as anything, I've seen dogs that lost both front legs later in life and have learned to walk on the back two. A dog might be able to turn sharper or preform feats of agility better with a tail but  it won't effect the maneuvers they do in everyday life to lose it.


That said I still like the look of a natural tail better.

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May 11, 2010 at 11:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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